Finally all gone?

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SabbadiusUSA
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Re: Finally all gone?

Post by SabbadiusUSA » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:15 pm

andy couchman wrote:Just looking at the Earl and comparing it to my Hellcat it has:

- a bit more power (50w vs 35)
- switchable to 15w (can a Hellcat be retro switchable to lower power?)
- channel switchable at the amp as well as via a footswitch
- uses PCBs (but away from the valve circuitry, so it sits between Roadhouse and the bigger amps?)
- no sexy oxblood covering!

I'm sure it's a very fine amp (Martin Kidd has a justifiably good reputation as we know) but my Hellcat (new) was cheaper and still seems a bit more special (OK I'm as biased as a valve...).

Will be interesting to compare back to back.

Andy
None of the Victory amps use PCB's.

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Re: Finally all gone?

Post by leos » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:48 pm

[quote="SabbadiusUSA
None of the Victory amps use PCB's.[/quote]

They do - seems to be mostly hand wired though.
There are pictures of the innards on facebook right here:
https://www.facebook.com/VictoryAmpsUK/photos_stream
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Re: Finally all gone?

Post by kell » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:02 pm

They use pcb for power supply and switching.

Looking on the "Earl" board you will find an updated MK50II.
Less bass in the tonestack (100n –> 22n), a much bigger cap (100p–>470p) between the anodes of the splitter to tame down the treble top end, another switching at the first gain stage, reverb similar to the HellCat .............
M.K. obviously read some of our threads. :surprised: :biggrin:

All in all there is no need for me to buy one of them, no thanks! :wink:
If you have a Cornford, keep it!

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Re: Finally all gone?

Post by Shrila » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:48 am

kell wrote: All in all there is no need for me to buy one of them, no thanks! :wink:
If you have a Cornford, keep it!
You are absolutely right Kell. It looks like it's just a rebranding.

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Re: Finally all gone?

Post by kell » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:07 am

Yes,

what else should Martin K. have done. He built his name with the Cornford brand as he was the technical mastermind.
Potential customers expect to get that sound, so it was not necessary to invent the wheel twice. :wink:

But to be fair, you get a bit more features and on some points better components are used. Each to their own.

G

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